One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. Lord, Yes! Betty was born May 21,1943 to A.R. Nails cost big money and Old Master's blacksmith wouldn't make none 'ceptin a few for old Master now an den so we used wooden dowels to put things together. All the Vann marsters was good looking. Sometimes she pull my hair. James Vann had several other wives and children. Betty Robertson's father worked aboard Joseph Vann's steamboat, Lucy Walker. Everybody a hollerin' and a cryin'. He worked in the gold mines. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. We never had no school in slavery and it was agin' the law for anybody to even show a negro de letters and figures, so no Cherokee slave could read. He wouldn't take us way off, but just for a ride. My mother was seamstress. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. Chief Joseph David VANN passed awayon 1844in in boat race on Ohio River, Indiana. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. That was sort of vault, where the family valuables was kept. The slaves of the Creeks also joined those of the Cherokees and the band set out for Mexico. When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. When the European settlers came over in the 16th century, the Cherokee Native American Indians were living in the East and Southeast United States. Husband of Polly Vann and Jennie Vann There wasn't nothing left. on the Ohio River. One time we sold one hundred hogs on the foot. 61 (Spring, 1983). After supper the colored folks would get together and talk, and sing, and dance. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. Some had been in a big run-away and had been brung back, and wasnt so good, so he keep them on the boat all the time mostly. He was a slave on the Chism plantation, but came to Vann's all the time on account of the horses. The big House was a double log wid a big hall and a stone chimney but no porches, wid two rooms at each end, one top side of de other. I had two brothers, Silas and George, dat belong to Mr. George Holt in Webber's falls town. After the Removal, Joseph Vann was chosen the first Assistant Chief of the united Cherokee Nation under the new 1839 Constitution that was created in Indian Territory (Oklahoma), serving with Principal Chief John Ross. Everybody had a good time. Florence Smith was my first wife and Ida Vann the second. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. Smoeone call our names and everybody get a present. There was a bugler and someone called the dances. He had apparently been attending the horse races at Louisville, KY. Vann, Joseph H., Cherokee Rose: On Rivers of Golden Tears, 1st Books Library (2001), ISBN 0-75965-139-6. When he get home he call my uncle and ask about what we done all day and tell him what we better do de next day. Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. Marster and missus never allowed chillun to meddle in the big folks business. Young Master never whip his slaves, but if they dont mind good he sell them off sometimes. They wanted everybody to know we was Marster Vann's slaves. You can take a bus from Monheim am Rhein to Cologne via Leverkusen Leverkusen Mitte Bf in around 1h 24m. There was big parties and dances. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. It was "Don't Call the Roll, Jesus Because I'm Coming Home." Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away. I'se born across the river in the plantation of old Jim Vann in Webbers Falls. It made my Master mad, but dey didn't belong to him no more and he couldn't say nothing. Of course I hear about Abraham Lincoln and he was a great man, but I was told mostly by my children when dey come home from school about him. Cherokee tribes are native to the North American continent. The first time I married was to Clara Nevens, and I wore checked wool pants, and a blue striped cotton shirt. If somebody bad sick he git de doctor right quick, and he don't let no negroes mess around wid no poultices and teas and sech things, like cupping-horns neither! His master Daniel Nave, was Cherokee. The grandparents were Joseph Vann, a Scottish trader who came from the Province of South Carolina, and Cherokee Mary Christiana (Wah-Li or Wa-wli Vann). His grandfather was Clement Vann, a Scottish trader who moved from Charleston, South Carolina, to the Cherokee lands in northwest Georgia and married Wa-wli, a Cherokee Indian. They'd clap their hands and holler. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. He took us back to Texas right down near where I was born at Bellview. They got over in the Creek country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. I had one brother and one sister sold when I was little and I dont remember the names. By and by I married Nancy Holdebrand what lived on Greenleaf Creek, bout four miles northwest of Gore. He located at Webbers Falls on the Arkansas River and operated a line of steamboats on the Arkansas, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers. The engineer's name was Jim Vann. All Indians lived around there, the real colored settlement was four mile from us, and I wasn't scared of them Indians for pappa always told me his master Henry Nave, was his own father; that make me part Indian and the reason my hair is long, straight and black like a horse mane. But about the home--it was a double-room log house with a cooling-off space between the rooms, all covered with a roof, but no porch, and the beds was made of planks, the table of pine boards, and there was never enough boxes for the chairs so the littlest children eat out of a tin pan off the floor. Others were returned to their owners. Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptized if we want to, but I wasn't baptized till after the War. If someone they didn't want to have it try to dig it up, money sink down, down deep in the ground where they couldn't get it. Born 11 February 1798 - Spring Place, Cherokee Nation-East, IT., GA. Deceased 23 October 1844 - Aboard the Lucy Walker,aged 46 years old Parents James Vann, Chief 1809 Nancy Ann Timberlake Brown 1780-1850 Spouses and children Married, Georgia., USA, to Elizabeth Catherine Rowe 1798- with Living Vann Clarinda Rebecca Vann ca 1817- Delia Vann 1834- My mother was seamstress. Dat was de time dat was the hardest and everything was dark and confusion. And we had corn bread and cakes baked every day. My marster and missus buried their money and valuables everywhere. She dye with copperas and walnut and wild indigo and things like dat and made pretty cloth. One time old Master and another man come and took some calves off and Pappy say old Master taking dem off to sell I didn't know what sell meant and I ast Pappy is he going to bring em back when he git through selling them. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. World War I began in 1914. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. After everything quiet down and everything was just right, we come back to territory second time. to me".1 At that time, no doubt many in the legal profession were similarly placed. I believe it is the same person.) Person Interviewed: Betty Robertson Location: Fort Gibson, Oklahoma Age: 93 I was born close to Webbers Falls, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation, in the same year that my pappy was blowed up and killed in the big boat accident that killed my old Master. Its got a buokeys and a lead bullet in it. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days and go to Fort Gibson. I wore a stripedy shirt till I was about 11 years old and den one day while we was down in the Choctaw Country old Mistress see me and nearly fall off her horse. There was lots of preserves. Some niggers say my pappy kept hollering, Rum it to the bank! My husband was a Cherokee born Negro, too, and when he got mad he forgit all the English he knowed. Joseph and his sister Mary were children of James Vann and Nannie Brown, both mixed-blood Cherokees. Thank you for visiting chief joseph vann family tree page. Bahnen der Stadt Monheim GmbH. Biography. I dont know about Robert Lee, but I know about Lees Creek. When Marster Jim and Missus Jennie went away, the slaves would have a big dance in the arbor. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. It look lots of clothes for all them slaves. She was weavin when the case came up so quick, missus Jennie put her in her own bed and took care of her. woodland hills market owner; warframe norg brain without bait; firefighter class a uniform pin placement. Joseph Vann is listed in the Cherokee census of 1835 as a resident of the Cherokee nation within the chartered limits of Hamilton County, Tennessee, his family consisting of fifteen persons. Then the preacher put you under water three times. Sometimes they fish in the Illinois river, sometimes in the Grand, but they always fish the same way. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. A Scottish trader came to Cherokee Territory in 1755, married Wai-Li and became a licensed trader-interpreter for the Queen of England. The last one was named for Hubbard Ross; he was related to Chief John Ross and was some kin to Daniel Nave, my father's master. Joseph married Jennie Vann (born Doublehead) on date. Those included in this collection all mention the Vanns. The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. Im glad the wars over and I am free to meet God like anybody else, and my grandchildren can learn to read and write. My parents are both dead now--seems like fifty, maybe sixty year ago. They'd cut brush saplings, walk out into the stream ahead of the pen and chase the fish down to the riffle where they'd pick em up. Had sacks and sacks of money. Indians made us keep our master's name. Pappa got the soldier fever from being in the War; no, I don't mean like the chills and fever, but just a fever to be in the army, I guess for he joined the regular U.S. Army after a while, serving five years in the 10th Cavalry at Fort Sill during the same time John Adair of Tahelquah and John Gallagher of Muskogee was in the army. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. Lord yes su-er. We was at dat place two years and made two little crops. Below New Albany, the vessel blew up when one or more boilers blew up, killing the majority of the passengers and among them the owner and captain. My brothers was name Sone and Frank. Their slaves also helped build the nearby Moravian mission and school in Spring Place. When the last of the Cherokees were forcibly moved west in 1838, government records indicate that 1,592 black slaves were moved to Indian Territory with their owners. Pappy was the shoe-maker and he used wooden pegs of maple to fashion the shoes. Everybody laugh and was happy. In Georgia, during the early 1800s, slaves owned by the Vann Family made the bricks and milled the lumber used to build the Vann House in Spring Place. sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robert sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph H Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robe James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) (James Wahli Vann Etc. (Note: Can we assume this is the same Joseph Vann that was given 150 acres below Keg Creek on the Savannah River (Dec 1764).It is 9 years later and there are 4 more children. We had bonnets that had long silk tassels for ties. The following year, Joseph Vann and several of his black rebels died in the explosion of his steamboat Lucy Walker during a race on the Ohio River. Geni requires JavaScript! Used to go up and down the river in his steamboat. I always pick a whole passel of muscadines for old Master and he make up sour wine, and dat helps out when we git the bowel complaint from eating dat fresh pork. Master give me over to de National Freedmen's bureau and I was bound out to a Cherokee woman name Lizzie McGee. The slave cabins was in a row, and we lived in one of them. Right after the War, de Cherokees that had been wid the South kind of pestered the freedmen some, but I was so small dey never bothered me; jest de grown ones. My other sisters was Polly, Ruth and Liddie. It is located at the intersection of U.S. Highway 76 and Georgia 225 in Murray County, on the outskirts of Chatsworth in northwest Georgia. The fugitive slaves killed the two bounty hunters and the slaves they had been returning joined those attempting to reach Mexico. The preacher took his candidate into the water. They get something they need too. The Chief Vann House, built between 1804 and 1806 by the Cherokee leader James Vann, is called the "Showplace of the Cherokee Nation .". Now I'se just old forgotten woman. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. Isaac had been Young Joe's driver and he told me all about how rich Master Joe was and how he would look after us negroes. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. Dey didn't have much and couldn't make anymore and dem so old. My uncle used to baptize 'em. I'se proud anyway of my Vann name. In one month you have to get back. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. When Marster Jim and Missus Jennie went away, the slaves would have a big dance in the arbor. When Mammy went old Mistress took me to de Big House to help her and she was kind to me like I was part of her own family. He was a Native American Cherokee leader, businessman, slave owner, and planter. Old Mistress had inherited some property from her pappy and dey had de slave money and when dey turned everything into good money after de War dat stuff only come to about six thousand dollars in good money, she told me. -ga Vann, Delilah Amelia Mcnair (born Vann), Sarah "sallie" Vann Nicholson Or Buzzard Trapper (born Vann), Tacah To Kah Do Key, Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Georgia, Old Cherokee Nation East, United States, Chief James Vann, Ii, Nannie Vann (born Brown), Oct 26 1844 - Ohio, Indiana, United States, Chief "crazy" James Ti-ka-lo-hi Clement Vann, Nancy Ann Vann (born Timberlake Brown). The preacher took his candidate into the water. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. Everybody went---white folks, colored folks. All the colored folks lined up and the overseer he tell them what they must do that day. He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky, and back. Different friends would come and they'd show that arm. Although Joseph Vann's body was never found, slave Lucinda Vann revealed that one of his arms had been found, positively identified, and taken to Vann's home at Webbers Falls, Oklahoma, where it was preserved for many years. I spent happy days on the Harnage plantation going squirrel hunting with the master---he was always riding, while I run along and throw rocks in the trees to scare the squirrels so's Marse John could get the aim on them; pick a little cotton and put it in somebody's hamper (basket) and run races with other colored boys to see who would get to saddle the masters horse, while the master would stand laughing by the gate to see which boy won the race. We had out time to go to bed and our time to get up in the morning. We left de furniture and only took grub and tools and bedding and clothes, cause they wasn't very big wagons and was only single-yoke. Train operators. They could have anything they wanted. I sure did love her. I don't remember much about my pappy's mother; but I remember she would milk for a man named Columbus Balreade and she went to prayer meeting every Wednesday night. Joe had two wives, one was named Missus Jennie. When the Vanns were forced from their Spring Place home in 1834, they took many slaves with them when they fled to safety in Tennessee. I'd like to go where we used to have picnics down below Webbers Falls. Old Master Joe had a mighty big farm and several families of Negroes, and he was a powerful rich man. Dey only had two families of slaves wid about twenty in all, and dey only worked about fifty acres, so we sure did work every foot of it good. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. We got letters all the time form Indians back in the territory. Lord no, he didn't. My grandmother Clarinda Vann, bossed the kitchen and the washing and turned the key to the big bank. Then, in Section 2, John Vann's own records will be presented as unembellished as can be in order to glimpse him at work as a Chickasaw packman, Cherokee trader and government translator. On his extensive plantation some 800 acres were under cultivation. In de second year of de War he sold my mammy and my aunt dat was Uncle Joe's wife and my two brothers and my little sister. I never did have much of a job, jest tending de calves mostly. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. My referees on the grant application were Dame Sian Elias, Chief Justice of New Zealand, and Sir David Williams, University of Cambridge. In slavery time the Cherokee Negroes do like anybody else when they is a death, jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. There was a big church. Marster had a little race horse called "Black Hock" She was all jet black, excepting three white feet and her stump of a tail. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the Negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to old Master Joe. 1) Chief Doublehead (a rival of James Vann) 2) John Foreman a) Elizabeth Foreman m. John Elliott (white) 3) James Vann a) Sally Vann m. Evan Nicholson (white) / James Lamar (white) b.1797 F)Dawnee, described by the Moravian missionaries as a poor full blood woman, who was often drunk.She had at least 2 and maybe 3 husbands: 1) James Vann My uncle Joe was de slave boss and he tell us what de Master say do. That meant she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. They put white cloths on the shelves and laid the good on it. A whole half of ribs sold for twenty-five cents. Joseph H. Vann, (11 February 1798 23 October 1844). Upon being brought to Fort Gibson, five slaves were held to stand trial for murdering the two bounty hunters. When the war come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. My husband didn't give me nothing. Dey would come in de night and hamstring de horses and maybe set fire to de barn, and two of em named Joab Scarrel, and Tom Starr killed my pappy one night just before the War broke out.

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